Personal Experience Perspectives From a Normie

[The Wife]

Hello all! I was talking with @Flint about this forum and it led to a conversation about my experiences here. I wanted to share how this has been for me and, while not intending to be giving criticism, this is me reflecting on what I've noticed.

Firstly, I don't know how much people reading this are aware of me, but @Flint has told me he's mentioned pretty regularly that I'm a mental health therapist. I primarily work with men, a very good portion of them being incel. This has resulted in a lot of my professional work being about helping individuals adapt to cultures with the intention of forming stronger personal relationships. That said, however, in a clinical setting I only know what is shared with me. My time here has given me a unique look without that filter present.

I've never had an account on org or com. This is my first real direct experience with looksmaxing related communities in general, but I'm seeing cultural norms being shifted from there that, for an outsider, are very interesting to me. I'm not used to seeing things like slurs used so casually, then people worrying about the consequences when people challenge them for it. I've seen several posts of strategy and tactics on being desirable but then speaking to each other in a way where that energy is replaced with a helpless self-loathing.

One of the posts called this a "circle jerk forum" and I think there's a lot of accuracy in that statement, but not in the way it was meant. As an outsider, I don't know what this place is for besides being a group chat version of an xbox lobby where sometimes people post a guide of some kind that most of the users aren't going to even read.

I don't know why this is a culture other normies would want to join. And, I think that's been the biggest issue of the bigger sites. The response to this is usually, "Then don't join. You're not wanted here anyway". But I find that so opposite of everything that's been said. As I understand it, the core principles of these forums is to be able to better attract people, but all I see is justification to keep people away.

 

[Histy]

Hello all! I was talking with @Flint about this forum and it led to a conversation about my experiences here. I wanted to share how this has been for me and, while not intending to be giving criticism, this is me reflecting on what I've noticed.

Firstly, I don't know how much people reading this are aware of me, but @Flint has told me he's mentioned pretty regularly that I'm a mental health therapist. I primarily work with men, a very good portion of them being incel. This has resulted in a lot of my professional work being about helping individuals adapt to cultures with the intention of forming stronger personal relationships. That said, however, in a clinical setting I only know what is shared with me. My time here has given me a unique look without that filter present.

I've never had an account on org or com. This is my first real direct experience with looksmaxing related communities in general, but I'm seeing cultural norms being shifted from there that, for an outsider, are very interesting to me. I'm not used to seeing things like slurs used so casually, then people worrying about the consequences when people challenge them for it. I've seen several posts of strategy and tactics on being desirable but then speaking to each other in a way where that energy is replaced with a helpless self-loathing.

One of the posts called this a "circle jerk forum" and I think there's a lot of accuracy in that statement, but not in the way it was meant. As an outsider, I don't know what this place is for besides being a group chat version of an xbox lobby where sometimes people post a guide of some kind that most of the users aren't going to even read.

I don't know why this is a culture other normies would want to join. And, I think that's been the biggest issue of the bigger sites. The response to this is usually, "Then don't join. You're not wanted here anyway". But I find that so opposite of everything that's been said. As I understand it, the core principles of these forums is to be able to better attract people, but all I see is justification to keep people away.

It will never taken a serious step being on lookmsmaxing forums , but I believe that at least one user would get benefits or information that help them .
Personal experience: I made a lot of guides and some of them might be '"cope'" which I don't believe, the most replys I got are just "DNR" or "GPT slop" just because talking formally and have a good formatting even if the information is already known ; nobody actually reads these guides but as I said , Only few will read or get benefits or better they may create helpful threads/guides

 

[God]

It'll be very hard to fix these issues unfortunately, considering the majority of users are from these said forums you're critiquing.

There's a lot of truth in saying that there's no real reason for a "normie" to join and be active in this forum, when something like reddit already exists and is probably 10x better.

The forum succeeds in creating a NEW EXPERIENCE for people from incel forums, but for now isn't creating a comfortable experience for people that haven't been on any forums at all.

Hopefully with time this can be changed, a very important thing for that is obviously making the community more well-mannered and controlled. No slurs is a good start.

 

[Luca]

I think a lot of people join forums like .org because of the "free speech". Join to looksmax -> find out that you can say whatever and not be judged because the people there are just as weird as you.

That's how I felt at first, and to be fair it was quite a lot of fun but I don't really have any extremist views so now I just find the free speech on there stupid. I think free speech is double edged sword yk, being able to say what's on your mind sounds good on paper but that also means you will have really, and I mean really weird people on there who may or may not ruin your experience.

 

[Miguel]

slurs used so casually

 

[Miguel]

I think a lot of people join forums like .org because of the "free speech". Join to looksmax -> find out that you can say whatever and not be judged because the people there are just as weird as you.

That's how I felt at first, and to be fair it was quite a lot of fun but I don't really have any extremist views so now I just find the free speech on there stupid. I think free speech is double edged sword yk, being able to say what's on your mind sounds good on paper but that also means you will have really, and I mean really weird people on there who may or may not ruin your experience.

I use the "free speech" irl too because im a fucking teenager. All of the bois say some horrendous shit and everyone comes back together.

Its different here tho, i use these forums to connect with other people older + higher iq than me. Because in jeetland everyone is dumb asf.


I use "*****", "pajeet" irl too because I am immature.

Nothing serious + im not an incel already (only a virgin and that too cuz im underage)

 

[Yun]

I think a lot of people join forums like .org because of the "free speech". Join to looksmax -> find out that you can say whatever and not be judged because the people there are just as weird as you.

That's how I felt at first, and to be fair it was quite a lot of fun but I don't really have any extremist views so now I just find the free speech on there stupid. I think free speech is double edged sword yk, being able to say what's on your mind sounds good on paper but that also means you will have really, and I mean really weird people on there who may or may not ruin your experience.

I agree with this, the reason I originally joined .org was the same because you could say whatever you want and the "edgy" thing was fun, but it gets annoying after a while imo, it's cool to be able to say what you want, but people just abuse that and say the worst shit imaginable unfortunately.

There's a lot of truth in saying that there's no real reason for a "normie" to join and be active in this forum, when something like reddit already exists and is probably 10x better.

And I would disagree with this, a lot of applications I've done on .org & .com were mostly just normies trying to improve, but I'd guess most of them don't end up being active because they're still normies at the end of the day, they are not used to people being racist all the time, talking about incest stuff, praising rape and whatever else immoral stuff is on those forums, they sign up for "looksmaxxing" as a goal and then end up in a place full of self hating incels.

 

[Miguel]

If i talk about irl, I have black friends, Muslim friends and christian friends too.

They make fun of my whiteness and i make fun of their religion.

Nothin serious bout that although i do think on an incel forum people are serious.


Idk for me life is sunshine and rainbows

 

[Miguel]

I agree with this, the reason I originally joined .org was the same because you could say whatever you want and the "edgy" thing was fun, but it gets annoying after a while imo, it's cool to be able to say what you want, but people just abuse that and say the worst shit imaginable unfortunately.


And I would disagree with this, a lot of applications I've done on .org & .com were mostly just normies trying to improve, but I'd guess most of them don't end up being active because they're still normies at the end of the day, they are not used to people being racist all the time, talking about incest stuff, praising rape and whatever else immoral stuff is on those forums, they sign up for "looksmaxxing" as a goal and then end up in a place full of self hating incels.

I am a normie looking for knowledge in all aspects.

I ascended from ltn to hmtn last year and since then im focusing more on my knowledge.

I want to do something in life because living life in nature on a random mountain sounds good in theory but it gets lonely

 

[The Wife]

I agree with this, the reason I originally joined .org was the same because you could say whatever you want and the "edgy" thing was fun, but it gets annoying after a while imo, it's cool to be able to say what you want, but people just abuse that and say the worst shit imaginable unfortunately.


And I would disagree with this, a lot of applications I've done on .org & .com were mostly just normies trying to improve, but I'd guess most of them don't end up being active because they're still normies at the end of the day, they are not used to people being racist all the time, talking about incest stuff, praising rape and whatever else immoral stuff is on those forums, they sign up for "looksmaxxing" as a goal and then end up in a place full of self hating incels.

8chan walked so that org could do some kind of fast-paced waddle

 

[Miguel]

8chan walked so that org could do some kind of fast-paced waddle

Im so desensitized to slurs here in india that i think when i move to europe ill be beaten up as soon as i step foot in a public space.

I just gotta wait till im 18, till then I will say slurs freely.

You cant blame me tho, I unmuted in a cod lobby once and the horrors i heard...

 

[The Wife]

I use the "free speech" irl too because im a fucking teenager. All of the bois say some horrendous shit and everyone comes back together.

Its different here tho, i use these forums to connect with other people older + higher iq than me. Because in jeetland everyone is dumb asf.


I use "*****", "pajeet" irl too because I am immature.

Nothing serious + im not an incel already (only a virgin and that too cuz im underage)

One of the beautiful challenges of maturity is that as we gain freedoms we gain responsibilities in equal measure. Be who you are! Authenticity is one of the healthiest things we can do.

My commentary, while not directed at you specifically by any means, is that of normalizing an online persona that we're ashamed of irl, allowing it to fester until nothing else can exist alongside it, then feeling like our lives are collapsing when this monster of our own design becomes associated with us.

 

[stylix]

Hello all! I was talking with @Flint about this forum and it led to a conversation about my experiences here. I wanted to share how this has been for me and, while not intending to be giving criticism, this is me reflecting on what I've noticed.

Firstly, I don't know how much people reading this are aware of me, but @Flint has told me he's mentioned pretty regularly that I'm a mental health therapist. I primarily work with men, a very good portion of them being incel. This has resulted in a lot of my professional work being about helping individuals adapt to cultures with the intention of forming stronger personal relationships. That said, however, in a clinical setting I only know what is shared with me. My time here has given me a unique look without that filter present.

I've never had an account on org or com. This is my first real direct experience with looksmaxing related communities in general, but I'm seeing cultural norms being shifted from there that, for an outsider, are very interesting to me. I'm not used to seeing things like slurs used so casually, then people worrying about the consequences when people challenge them for it. I've seen several posts of strategy and tactics on being desirable but then speaking to each other in a way where that energy is replaced with a helpless self-loathing.

One of the posts called this a "circle jerk forum" and I think there's a lot of accuracy in that statement, but not in the way it was meant. As an outsider, I don't know what this place is for besides being a group chat version of an xbox lobby where sometimes people post a guide of some kind that most of the users aren't going to even read.

I don't know why this is a culture other normies would want to join. And, I think that's been the biggest issue of the bigger sites. The response to this is usually, "Then don't join. You're not wanted here anyway". But I find that so opposite of everything that's been said. As I understand it, the core principles of these forums is to be able to better attract people, but all I see is justification to keep people away.

These forums like .org or .is (i dont count.com because its a shit forum ran by foids) are for men who suffer in the dating market because women obviously have the advantage in that regard, its meant for people of that niche to talk about there troubles they experience in life now normies and women got a hold of it that will never be able to relate to there life experiences which sucks for them. Only forum I would say is not a full shitshow ran by normies is .is

 

[stylix]

I agree with this, the reason I originally joined .org was the same because you could say whatever you want and the "edgy" thing was fun, but it gets annoying after a while imo, it's cool to be able to say what you want, but people just abuse that and say the worst shit imaginable unfortunately.


And I would disagree with this, a lot of applications I've done on .org & .com were mostly just normies trying to improve, but I'd guess most of them don't end up being active because they're still normies at the end of the day, they are not used to people being racist all the time, talking about incest stuff, praising rape and whatever else immoral stuff is on those forums, they sign up for "looksmaxxing" as a goal and then end up in a place full of self hating incels.

Honestly i joined .org because i already actively was viewing the site for some years but then randomly the site became so unbearable its almost in possible to get real looksmaxing advice

 

[Rain]

so much talking
can we just breed already
6 foot 1 btw

 

[stylix]

so much talking
can we just breed already
6 foot 1 btw